Out of Touch with Reality

I apologize that the series on money has been so slow-going.  I promise to write more after the move is over, but for now, without further ado…

I think it’s fair to say that most Americans are out of touch with reality.  They have little to no concept of how others around the world live their lives and what extreme poverty looks like.  The mere glimpses I’ve seen while overseas don’t make me exempt to this criticism: I’m sure I really, really don’t get it, and that’s important for me to remember anytime I’m thinking about wealth and poverty.

But I think many people talking about social justice as a Christian mandate are also out of touch with reality.  I say this because of how their message does or does not discuss certain key issues relevant to their audience.

Or perhaps I should say “it did or didn’t” because it remains to be evaluated in the future what Christian leaders are teaching today.  We know what our own pastor teaches or what books are popular among our friends, but we can’t always assess the bigger picture for at least a few years.  So at risk of being completely irrelevant and outdated, I am going to do what is easy and discuss the things I remember hearing and reading in college.  This also carries the risk of being less about what anyone actually said and more about how it stuck with me.  Perhaps later I can deal with some specific authors or speakers in greater detail, but for now, I can only offer a “reader response criticism”-style analysis of the issues.  And in some ways, that’s extremely useful, I think, because what everyday Christians take home from a sermon or get out of a book is almost as important as what was actually said.  If a message is consistently misinterpreted, that’s a big problem.

There are two similar and related primary problems I see in the way topics related to economic justice have been handled by evangelicals of late:
(1) There is a tendency to speak to one’s entire audience with a message more applicable to only a portion of one’s actual audience.  Mostly, I mean that there is a tendency to speak to the more privileged without helping the less privileged (whether somewhat-less-privileged or much-less-privileged) understand their role as relates to the pursuit of justice.
(2) There is a tendency to overlook key issues relevant to even that smaller segment of “privileged” people or relevant to a basic concern with justice, in and of itself.

While I have a lot of thoughts on this, they’re still a bit of a jumble in my head, so please bear with me as I attempt to articulate them in the midst of this crazy season!

Seminary Re-Do

Based on a number of factors, we have decided to live in an apartment for our first few months in Waco, hopefully becoming homeowners just before Jeremiah starts class at Baylor in August  This means temporarily downsizing from 1500 sq. ft. and a garage to about 900 sq. ft. and a POD. True packing has only barely begun, but as a preliminary step today, I decided to try to pick out which books I want to keep with me over the summer. It’s a nearly impossible task.  How on earth do we take over ten IKEA Billies’ worth of books and select only two Billies’ worth?  Plus, some of that space will be taken up by our German board games and Ambrose’s books!  I tried to do my part tonight by paring down my to-read-soon selections to fit on only two of the twelve 30″ shelves we’ll have.  And looking at all of those books I’m hoping to read this summer got me thinking again about something I’ve considered a lot over the three years since I’ve graduated with my MA in Theology from Fuller: Sometimes I really wish I could do seminary over.

I started thinking this because of the books on my shelf.  A lot of my to-read books have been chosen to either build on what I learned in seminary or fill in some of the gaps left by the things I think I should have learned by didn’t.  Among the things that I wish I had gotten to spend more time on are world religions, philosophy (Nancey Murphy!), the Hebrew Bible (Pentateuch, Prophets, and Hebrew Exegesis Psalms didn’t even give me any survey of the rest of the Writings, much less additional in-depth work!), and church history.  Among the things I wish I had learned anything about at all are Greek exegesis (not enough space in my degree, although I did take Greek and Hebrew themselves), modern Roman Catholicism or Eastern Orthodoxy of any era, non-Western Christianity, preaching, and liturgical studies.

It may be surprising where some of those gaps lie, depending on your own seminary experience or your impressions of what seminary entails.  I think I sometimes wish that my time in seminary were altogether different.  Not only in terms of the specific topics I got to cover in class but in terms of my degree structure or denominational affiliation (or, in Fuller’s case, lake thereof), or who my professors and classmates were or (goodness, please!) trading the quarter system for semesters.  Before picking Fuller, I also considered applying to Duke, North Park, and Palmer.  I picked Fuller because of its size, its multiethnicity, its larger number of female professors, and its location in a place that was totally new to me.  I thought it would be a place with lots of exciting opportunities, and it was.  While I was at Fuller, I griped a lot about the degree plan for the MA in Theology, inefficiencies on the business side of Fuller, etc.  After experiencing Duke Divinity through Jeremiah, I now know that many of Fuller’s flaws are far from unique, and since my time at Fuller was overwhelmingly positive, I look back with an intense nostalgia.  Fuller is now a magical place where people think of themselves as evangelical and yet I still fit in.  (Those are few and far between at this point!)

Between all these warm fuzzies and the obvious fact that I met my husband there, I would never, ever want to go back and change where I actually went to seminary.  And yet sometimes I wish I could do a seminary re-do of sorts, gaining everything I feel I missed without giving up any of the good things I’ve already enjoyed.  Here’s some of the things I think I might change the second time around:

1) I would go to a mainline seminary.  I’ve had my time in a postconservative institution.  The second time around, I’d love to get to know the postliberal side of things a bit better.

2) I would go to a denominationally affiliated school.  Fuller benefits in many ways from being interdenominational, but I don’t think it encouraged me to nail down my own denominational identity.  I don’t need to be whatever the school is, but I think there being one primary denominational affiliation can encourage others to become more active in the smaller denominational groups on campus.

3) I would do an MDiv.  Because, well, first of all, my MA in Theology is not the most helpful degree when it comes to getting jobs.  And secondly, because an MDiv at most schools would require a lot of those classes I wish I had had, like Greek exegesis, preaching, and liturgical studies.  I also think doing an MDiv would have forced me to answer certain questions about vocational ministry that I didn’t have to answer with an MA and which now are more complicated to work through.

4) I would speak up more in class.  I felt rather self-conscious in seminary and became much less active in class than I had been in high school or college.  I’m not sure if it was the very different gender ratios, the unfamiliar subject matter, or various other transitions I was going through at the time—whatever the cause, I was a very good student but simply tried to stay out of certain conversations.  It didn’t help that there were a ton of hipster theologian wannabes at Fuller who seemed to think it was a great idea show off during class.  (Most of them made fools of themselves anyway, so I was glad not to join them.)  At risk of sounding too critical of everyone else, as much as I hated them at the time, I wish I had tried to be even a little bit more like them.  I think if I had put myself out there, I could have been a student who TAed for professors (like my friend Christy) or who went on to take more advanced classes or who at least would be remembered as more than a number after graduation.  And, most importantly, I would have learned more and probably made some meaningful connections with other people interested in fascinating subjects.

5) I would specialize rather than being a generalist.  This is challenge with an MDiv, and even more so with an MA in Theology.  However, the new structure of the program since I graduated does greatly improve one’s options, even when doing an MA at Fuller.  I would probably take more courses on modern and American church history, which is one of the only areas (besides ministry and New Testament) that I had done a fair amount of reading in before seminary.  It connects well with my interest in sociology of religion, and it is very helpful and informative in thinking about the roots of and future possibilities for today’s church.

There is, however, one thing that I definitely would not change: I would absolutely still do my MA in Family Studies degree, as well.  While it also isn’t the most helpful degree for finding a job, I loved my short time in Fuller’s School of Psychology, and I think it helped inform and round out my theology degree in important ways.

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Apologies…

I’m about to start on a real post, I promise, but I did want to really quickly apologize for how awful we’ve been about updating lately.  Things have been incredibly hectic over here because (if you haven’t heard through Facebook or Twitter already!) Jeremiah is starting a PhD program in New Testament at Baylor University this summer!  That means we are moving to Waco, TX in less than a month.  Additionally, Jeremiah just turned in his ThM thesis yesterday and still has several days to finish his last paper for Duke, so things have been pretty academically intense, as well. I’ve been taking care of most of the move logistics, as well as doing extra Ambrose duty so Jeremiah can meet his deadlines.  We’re hoping to start blogging more regularly as soon as things calm down, but in the meantime, thanks for bearing with us!

Slacktivist: “Don’t treat people as symbols for a tribal loyalty quiz.”

Fred Clark from Slacktivist just quoted my recent post, “InterVarsity, Lawsuits, and Leadership,” and extended the discussion with his own post: “Don’t treat people as symbols for a tribal loyalty quiz.”

I liked some of what he said enough to also want to quote him back here, as well:

The argument about sexuality beneath the surface of the pretense of an argument about religious liberty isn’t really even an argument about sexuality. That argument, in turn, is really just a proxy for yet another underlying argument — an argument about the meaning of the Bible.

I wholeheartedly agree.  Ultimately this ends up being about hermeneutics and about whether or not Christians can differ in how they interpret the Bible.  Interestingly, the way this is playing out for gay Christians has been encouraging me to slowly consider truly embracing the Baptist tradition, which emphasizes freedom of conscience.  I think it’s a shame many Christians will not allow more freedom of opinion on this and other controversial matters, but that seems unlikely to happen as long as they refuse to believe anyone might legitimately interpret the Bible differently than they do.  It is true that certain interpretations may eventually prove to be untenable, but allowing someone to make their case and still be recognized as a Christian who values what Scripture says is a very important thing.

Evangelical groups are prodigious producers of elaborate “statements of faith” that seem to spell out their core sectarian identity in extensive, lawyerly detail. But those statements of faith don’t include the tribal markers that provide the short-hand litmus tests for all of the theological-sounding mumbo-jumbo they enumerate in detail.

My, haven’t we seen this lately with all the firings at evangelical academic institutions?  And really, to me, this is what’s most unfair.  The fact is, at least some Christians will always hold to more conservative positions about certain issues.  We can disagree with them all we want, but they will exist, and we should recognize that they’re trying even when we think they’re utterly failing.  We can try to persuade them God is leading all of us in a different direction, but we should respect the fact that they, too, are desiring to listen to the Holy Spirit.  However, I think it’s completely legitimate, appropriate, and perhaps even a moral obligation for us to ask them to be polite by sharing their convictions openly—not necessarily forcefully and rudely but honestly and in broad daylight—so that we don’t have to have Christian professors losing tenure because they don’t believe in the historical Adam or 20-year-old college ministry leaders being pushed out of their spiritual community because they interpret Romans 1 differently than someone else.

I know exactly what it feels like to have your position made invisible as a Christian option.  I have experienced it a great deal as a Christian who is also a feminist, and I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.  We all need to learn to acknowledge someone’s good-faith attempt to read the Bible rightly, even when we disagree with their conclusions.  While some organizations may want to organize themselves more narrowly according to their particular theological stances, they must remain ecumenically engaged with those on the “other side.”  If there is any, “You can’t be with us anymore,” it needs to be followed immediately with, “But we have friends over here who think a bit more like you, and we are excited to see your ministry with them.  We recognize that we are all still Christians trying to live out the gospel as best we know how.”  It still may not be a solution that satisfies everyone, but it’s a step towards unity in the midst of diversity.  I will always feel sad when Christians don’t support gender equality because it feels personal, but it does dampen the blow a bit when I know my position is considered “incorrect” in more of the sense that Calvinists and Arminians see each other as “wrong” rather than in the sense that deserves excommunication from Christian circles entirely.

Ultimately, Clark sees using LGBT people as an orthodoxy test is dehumanizing, a sentiment with which I heartily agree.

So here’s my plea to the tribal trustees and the evangelical gatekeepers: You’re free, in good faith, to not find my hermeneutic acceptable or persuasive. You’re free, in good faith, to believe that the clobber verses require you to condemn same-sex attraction. And you’re even free, in good faith, to believe that every other possible interpretation of those clobber verses is tantamount to a rejection of “the authority of the Bible.”

But stop treating people — flesh-and-blood children of God — as nothing more than symbols for your tribal loyalty quizzes. That’s evil. Knock it off.

I think Clark is right what when we take a deeply personal issue like this and make it into our litmus test for who’s in and who’s out, we completely disregard the seriousness of how this debate in the church impacts their lives.  We’re all free to our own opinions, whether or not others like them.  But mere compassion and sensitivity to the pain of our brothers and sisters in Christ should change the tone of this conversation.

Anyway, you ought to go read all of the post for yourself!

 

Justice, Generosity, and the Vanishing Middle Class

A few days ago I watched a viral video which has been going around about the ridiculous income gap in the United States, and since then, I’ve been continuing to ponder something I’ve been considering for the last few years: the issue of generosity and justice. I’ve been slow to speak out publicly about this because I don’t want to swing too far in the opposite direction of my previous leanings, but I’m starting to think that the way I thought about wealth, justice, and giving during my college years was out of balance.

I started caring about social justice circa 2005, just before Shane Claiborne was mega-cool, and right around the time justice issues were just starting to build a bit of momentum in evangelical circles. I felt I was part of the vanguard, drawing on the wisdom of an older generation of leaders like John Perkins, telling my peers they needed to care more and leave their safe middle-class neighborhoods. I put a lot of pressure on myself to give generously, not only monetarily but also by doing things like summer urban projects while other college students were getting internships to build their resumes or jobs to build up savings. For example, I gave up a really great summer job with my orthodontist—making more money per hour than I have ever made in the nearly ten years since—to do a service-learning experience in the inner city. This was a valuable experience and I wouldn’t say I regret it, but it was definitely a sacrifice.

Unfortunately, I don’t think I realized until long after college just what a sacrifice some of these things were. I thought of myself as being part of an upper-middle class elite and needing to divest myself of my privilege. In some sense this was very valid for the daughter of a doctor who attended a private prep school. What I failed to realize, however, and what I feel other justice-minded Christians (many of them only known to me through the books they wrote) neglected to mention was that things would change when I wasn’t a college student supported by my parents. It is easy to give up a summer of earning money or gaining experience when you don’t have any real financial obligations. And while it was possible and valuable in the short-term, I sometimes find myself questioning its value in the long-term.

It’s not that I don’t want people to be committed to social justice. But I was already convinced justice was important. I just felt that because I was committed to justice that I owed God this sort of sacrifice. And that’s the part I now question. I question it, in particular, with the knowledge that the economy in the United States has been increasingly harsh towards those with college degrees, so that having grown up well-off and having an education no longer means you can avoid unemployment or underemployment. I also question it with that viral video in mind. As the income and wealth disparities in the United States continue to grow, I wonder if pressuring the bulk of Americans to divest themselves of significant amounts money is really ethical or wise.

As I write this, my past self screams at me that I’m an evil rich American who doesn’t understand anything about the gospel… but I have enough questions about this currently that I think it would be worth exploring in a blog series. I’d love to get some of your initial thoughts on this!

InterVarsity, Lawsuits, and Leadership

I was a bit puzzled by InterVarsity’s latest blog post, “Selecting the Right Leader,” by Gordon Govier.  The post insinuates that InterVarsity chapters around the country are being pressured by universities to let non-Christians lead chapters.  I am not as informed about the situation as some people on InterVarsity staff, I’m sure, but my understanding is that this is what is happening at a handful of campuses… but at an equal number of campuses, the issue is InterVarsity’s objection to “practicing” gay Christian leaders.  In fact, from what I’ve read, at many of these campuses these issues are really the same.  The conversation goes something like this:

IV: “Susie, you are gay and think that’s ok, so you can’t be a leader anymore.”

Univ.: “That’s discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation!”

IV: “No, it’s not!  It’s ok with us that Susie is gay.  She just shouldn’t think that’s ok.”

Univ: “Oh.  Well that’s discrimination on the basis of religion!”

IV: “So, we’re a Christian group?”

Then instead of objecting and saying something like, “Well, not all Christians agree with you” (which to me is a logical response), many universities are saying, “Well, maybe we shouldn’t let you discriminate on the basis of religion at all then.”  Which then, of course gets presented as, “They want us to put Wiccan and Muslim students in charge of our Christian group!”  Perhaps some universities would really push for that, but that’s not exactly where the conversation got started in the first place at many of these schools.  At many of them this is starting as a conflict about sexuality.

Sidenote: I put “practicing” in quotes because InterVarsity, like many Christian organizations which come down most conservatively on the issue of homosexuality in the church doesn’t clearly define what “practicing” means.  Does it mean having sex?  Does that mean it’s ok to be in a relationship where you’re not having sex?  I would think they’d have a problem with that, too, but where precisely is the line drawn and why?  I have some thoughts on this topic from my time at Fuller, but that is a discussion for another day…

Back to the main point here: I’m not certain why this was left out of the article.  InterVarsity students, parents, and financial supporters should know what is actually going on.  If InterVarsity feels confident about its position on homosexuality, this shouldn’t be a problem.  Quite honestly, I think it will gain them more donors than it will cost them.  Problems tend to come to organizations moving in the opposite direction.

So why not be honest?  I’m not certain this post was meant to be deceitful—really I rather doubt it—but it doesn’t tell the whole story.  I wonder if this is because historically InterVarsity hasn’t seemed to want to push this issue and highlight it the way many evangelical organizations do.  There’s something honorable about that: not wanting to make a fuss and draw too much attention to what is seen as a more peripheral issue, especially one that most evangelicals engage with rather poorly whenever attention is drawn to it.  At the same time, it would be good to be upfront about their position.

I agree that student groups should be allowed to “discriminate” based on beliefs, but I question the wisdom of InterVarsity’s making their stance on homosexuality an orthodoxy test while leaving similarly controversial issues such as women in ministry open for disagreement.  Is this really a line-in-the-sand sort of issue?  Are the ancient ecumenical creeds not enough?  Is a profession of Christian faith not enough?  Is a heartfelt desire to follow Jesus not enough?  Why is this the only issue on which many “interdenominational” organizations can have no diversity?  Some InterVarsity alumni and friends will disagree with this move, and they should have the information they need to make decisions about their financial support.

Only a handful of other donors may feel this way, but even so, I wish this article had been more thorough.  If nothing else, doesn’t journalism demand a higher standard?  Doesn’t a Christian love of truth?  Let’s be clear about what is going on here.

Theistic Evolution Progress Report: Handful of Homeschoolers Teaching Evolution!

I admit I was not cool enough to find this link on my own, but since Pete Enns mentioned it, I wanted to also highlight it for our readers.  The Atlantic just did a piece about evangelical homeschoolers who teach evolution, which both surprised and encouraged me.  I sometimes feel rather cynical about the state of evangelicalism, but articles like this give me glimmers of hope for the future!

Luther: “Let’s both have sex and think of each other, brother!”

Yes, I tried to make the title of this post provocative.  But the quotation I’m sharing really is unique.  I came upon it in Water from a Deep Well by Gerald Sittser, a book about spirituality through the lens of various eras of church history, which I’m reading with my Bible study group.

This is what Luther apparently wrote to a friend who was getting married (p. 205):

When you sleep with your Catherine and embrace her, think this—’This is a human being, the best little creature of God, and Christ has given her to me.  Praise and glory to him.’  On the evening of the day when I calculate you will receive this letter, I will love my wife in the same way and have you in my memory and so we shall be together.

Sittser took it from Owen Chadwick’s book The Early Reformation on the Continent (pp. 140-141), but since less of that book is available for preview, I can’t see his citation for the quote.  Wherever it is from, Jeremiah and I thought it was funny… and creepy.

Bapto-Catholicism: A new path for Baptists in the postmodern era?

I recently read a delightful dissertation, which I really recommend to you called, “Bapto-Catholocism: Recovering Tradition and Reconsidering the Baptist Identity,” available in full-text as a PDF from Baylor.

The author, Cameron Jorgenson—a fellow Fuller alum who is now a professor Campbell’s div school—discusses the document “Re-envisioning Baptist Identity: A Manifesto for Baptist Communities in North America,” which was composed by Curtis Freeman of Duke Divinity, the late James Wm. McClendon of Fuller Seminary (and husband of the incredible Nancey Murphy, also of Fuller), Barry Harvey of Baylor University, Elizabeth Newman of the Baptist Theological Seminary at Richmond, Mikael Broadway of Shaw Divinity, and Philip Thompson of Sioux Falls Seminary.  The document was later signed by other cool people such as Stanley Grenz, Roger Olson, Glen Stassen, etc.

The document was apparently instrumental in the development of a disorganized but significant movement of Baptists with a new approach to Baptist identity, which some have termed “Bapto-Catholicism.”  Jorgenson says (see pp. 123-125) the main points of Bapto-Catholicism were described by Steve Harmon in his book Towards Baptist Catholicity (part of the Paternoster Studies in Baptist History & Thought series) as follows:

  • “First, Harmon argues that Bapto-Catholics see tradition as a source of authority.”
  • “Second, according to Harmon, Bapto-Catholics believe that there is a place for creeds in liturgy and catechesis.”
  • “Third, Bapto-Catholics approach liturgy as the context for formation by tradition.”
  • “Fourth, Bapto-Catholics see community as the locus of authority.”
  • “Fifth, Harmon observes that Bapto-Catholics have a sacramental emphasis in their theology.”
  • “Sixth, Harmon claims that Bapto-Catholics approach their task as a constructive retrieval of theology.”
  • “Seventh, according to Harmon, Bapto-Catholics engage in “thick” ecumenism.”

Jorgenson’s own list differs slightly (pp. 126-127):

“1) theological in its methodological orientation,
2) postmodern in its philosophical assumptions,
3) congregationally centered in its hermeneutics and practices,
4) catholic in its approach to tradition, especially with respect to sacraments and liturgy, and
5) ecumenical in its aim.”

As someone drawn to both Baptist and Anglican ways of doing church, I was instantly drawn in and excited to learn more.  I now have a giant reading list to attend to.

But what I found equally fascinating was Jorgenson’s suggestion that Bapto-Catholicism is an attempt to resolve a “crisis” in the Baptist “tradition” (in a McIntyrian sense), since the two sides of the SBC/CBF split—the “conservatives” (“fundamentalists!”) and “moderates” (“liberals!)—were both part of the modern era.  As Baptist move into postmodernity, identity must be conceived of in new ways, and the Bapto-Catholic approach is one such attempt which is specifically more postmodern, non-foundationalist, etc.

 

© Jeremiah and Ashleigh Bailey 2012